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he made a statement that chrysler was taking the jeeps and going to china with them. that's just wrong. flat-out wrong. >> andrea: by the time the ad came out it was factually correct. >> greg: by the way, if it was a flubb, which -- look, how could it be any worse than accusing mitt romney of murder? >> dana: they actually had to admit they got it wrong. even the people on the left said -- >> bob: can we go back to susan rice for a second. they talk about her being the national security advisor, which does require senator approval. my trend tom donal the current national security advisor, nobody easily pushed around, i think you look at him as potential secretary of state nominee as well. >> eric: what about john kerry? >> dana: holy freddie mac, batman. >> andrea: who is fact checking the fact checkers? how can someone call themselveses a fact checker? so greg, i'm just going to call myself a fact checker right now and say the lie of the year was politifact but it was that romney was wrong to claim spending under obama accelerated at a pace without precedence in his
he made a statement that chrysler was taking the jeeps and going to china with them. that's just wrong. flat-out wrong. >> andrea: by the time the ad came out it was factually correct. >> greg: by the way, if it was a flubb, which -- look, how could it be any worse than accusing mitt romney of murder? >> dana: they actually had to admit they got it wrong. even the people on the left said -- >> bob: can we go back to susan rice for a second. they talk about her being the...
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all chrysler said is it may make extra jeeps in china. here's what i said about romney's surprising misunderstanding of the auto industry back then. >> for decades and decades and decades, american auto companies have made cars in the countries or the regions in which they sell them. i want to remind americans when they buy toyotas and hondas and hyundais and nissans in america that are assembled here, back home somebody said why are you shipping our jobs to america? it shows a misunderstanding by the romney camp to try and get under people's nails about jobs and cars being made elsewhere. >> christine didn't see that coming and got stuck listening to my rant. they knew all of this very well and chrysler immediately denied the claim and romney stood by his ad. i don't need to tell you what an important swing state ohio is. there may be a host of reasons he department carry the state in the end, but his stunt didn't help. he tried to deceive ohioans and it backfired. mitt romney lost his best chance at the white house. the lie of the year
all chrysler said is it may make extra jeeps in china. here's what i said about romney's surprising misunderstanding of the auto industry back then. >> for decades and decades and decades, american auto companies have made cars in the countries or the regions in which they sell them. i want to remind americans when they buy toyotas and hondas and hyundais and nissans in america that are assembled here, back home somebody said why are you shipping our jobs to america? it shows a...
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and chrysler and we are going to not let those companies go bankrupt. ms. schakowsky: that was a lot of jobs. mr. johnson: we spent $700 billion and it was the united auto workers union that sat down at the negotiating table with big business, worked out what some may call givebacks. it actually gave up some of the benefits that it had signed contracts for with the employer. these are things that actually created the middle class. things like working days, working hours, wages, benefits, retirement. those kinds of things that people would not have had unless they had been represented by a union. and we had strong unions. so those things -- workers were -- gave back in part to make sure that the corporations could maintain or regain stability. and so now just a short three, four, five years later g.m. is back to being the number one carmaker in the world. ms. schakowsky: and all the money has been paid back to the united states treasury. mr. johnson: i think they still owe us a little bit. we still have -- we still have some of g.m. stock, the federal govern
and chrysler and we are going to not let those companies go bankrupt. ms. schakowsky: that was a lot of jobs. mr. johnson: we spent $700 billion and it was the united auto workers union that sat down at the negotiating table with big business, worked out what some may call givebacks. it actually gave up some of the benefits that it had signed contracts for with the employer. these are things that actually created the middle class. things like working days, working hours, wages, benefits,...
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we talked earlier this week about the power of unions and the situation in chrysler up to detroit where a fox affiliate reporter caught the guys on tape. there they are boozing and smoking pot on their lunch break then going back and working with heavy machinery building automobiles. and they just got ordered to get their jobs back despite the tape. they are on tape. because the way these union contracts are and the rules. now we hear these guys, these healthcare workers who are accused of just so our viewers know, removing patient i.d. wrist expands, patient identifiers from the room dears and wheelchairs. the name tags for thal humaner's ward were mixed up. the photo attached to medical records were removed. >> they have five days. healthbridge. five days in which to make their appeal. what is interesting is the judge in this case. he was select about it national labor relations board at the behest of the service employees union. he has hand picked by the nlrb. he is a clinton appointee. and he is hardly a dispassionate and objective player. megyn: it could have gone the other way und
we talked earlier this week about the power of unions and the situation in chrysler up to detroit where a fox affiliate reporter caught the guys on tape. there they are boozing and smoking pot on their lunch break then going back and working with heavy machinery building automobiles. and they just got ordered to get their jobs back despite the tape. they are on tape. because the way these union contracts are and the rules. now we hear these guys, these healthcare workers who are accused of just...
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like the daimlerchrysler -- it is not chrysler anymore. it is a daimler plant. just walk in and talk to the management. in fact, i did talk to management. i talked to labor representatives and they talk how they worked together, these last years. he's decided to do is -- the governor, is the opposite. i talked to someone who's a union rep and he goes down to north carolina where there's a plant there, a daimler plant doing the same work. and it is a right-to-work state. >> bill: mmm. >> so they have a t-shirt there and it says "i ride, you pay." >> bill: oh, wow. freeloaders. >> free riders. so people don't have to pay a share of the cost of representation. and participating in that is such a good, american idea. isn't that responsibility? >> bill: of course. if any state exemplifies what can be done when labor and management works together it is michigan and uaw and the big three. as you say. and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer
like the daimlerchrysler -- it is not chrysler anymore. it is a daimler plant. just walk in and talk to the management. in fact, i did talk to management. i talked to labor representatives and they talk how they worked together, these last years. he's decided to do is -- the governor, is the opposite. i talked to someone who's a union rep and he goes down to north carolina where there's a plant there, a daimler plant doing the same work. and it is a right-to-work state. >> bill: mmm....
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if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right to work is enshrined in michigan and right not to have to pay union duce is ensidelined and that is it a good thing. >> gretchen: to me, it is it the most important state that this has happened in because the autoindustry is such a hunal part of the economy there and the union is so strong there. do you agree with that? >> absolutely it is the home of the autoindustry union and the idea that michigan should revert to being a right to work state, that is it a revolution in the labor market. >> steve: we heard in the run up to the election, while the gm autoworkers wound up keeping their pensions and benefits, it
if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right...
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and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to [ male announcer ] you like who you are... and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking action. viagra. talk to your doctor. see if america's most prescribed ed treatment is right for you. >> cenk: politico is a fact-checking organization and they've been doing something over the last couple of years "the lie of year." >> obama: took g.m. and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to
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. >> obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for everyone american job. >> i'm mitt romney and i approved this message. >> of course, that's the jeep ad, michael crowley. sometimes these guys get caught in realtime, because the governor of this state and everybody said it didn't happen. >> right. well, chris, this is one of those wonderful examples where something can be factually accurate and still a complete lie. in other words, the language in that ad i believe stands up. that chrysler was going to begin, again, making jeeps in china, for chinese? >> right, right. it made perfect sense. a lot of auto companies do this. they weren't going to be moving jobs from the u.s. to china. but obviously that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered themselves enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think this ended up backfiring on them. they were desperate at that point. they were desperate to win ohio. i t
. >> obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. mitt romney will fight for everyone american job. >> i'm mitt romney and i approved this message. >> of course, that's the jeep ad, michael crowley. sometimes these guys get caught in realtime, because the governor of this state and everybody said it didn't happen. >> right. well, chris, this is one of those wonderful examples where something can be...
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but then the topics on the union, chrysler wanted to fire workers who were spot smoking spot and getting drunk. they were off the clock and came back to work on the assembly line. the arbitration guy said you have to hire them back. fair or unfair? >> i'm trying to get over this. if i got scarred for every time somebody called me fat i'd be nothing but scar tissue. it doesn't bother me. >> kimberly: you like it because i said i like meaty men. >> bob: what is the big deal? he said fat. >> dana: didn't say it to their face. it was on the receipt. >> bob: if you fired everybody out smoking on the lunch break after the country would be out of work. >> eric: may i weigh in? >> dana: yes. >> eric: this is the problem with america we're worried about firing people. business owners if you want fire them because they called someone fat, fire them. guess what? he is not going to get employed until he turns his ways around. fire away. fire that guyer radio d.j. good luck getting more radio d.j.s. turned around and the unions tell you, you can't fire someone for doing something wrong the whole worl
but then the topics on the union, chrysler wanted to fire workers who were spot smoking spot and getting drunk. they were off the clock and came back to work on the assembly line. the arbitration guy said you have to hire them back. fair or unfair? >> i'm trying to get over this. if i got scarred for every time somebody called me fat i'd be nothing but scar tissue. it doesn't bother me. >> kimberly: you like it because i said i like meaty men. >> bob: what is the big deal? he...
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so the employers, let's say general motors, ford, chrysler, the automobile manufacturers, since we're talking about michigan, they all made lots of money. and the workers who worked for those companies were middle class and their children went to college and became lawyers and doctors and accountants and some of them even went back to work in the factories. but now, seven days it took to crush the ability of workers to stand together financially. they'll never crush the spirit of the workers but they have used the law with no public hearings new york committee action, no regular course of action during the legislation, during the legislative session, which is a lame duck legislative session by the way, no regular order, just a sneak attack thursday morning, the sixth of november, one month after the landslide election in michigan and throughout this country, that turned back the corporate money that was arrayed against the democrats. and arrayed against president obama. it turned that back. a resounding victory on november 6, on december 6, a sneak attack while during a lame duck sess
so the employers, let's say general motors, ford, chrysler, the automobile manufacturers, since we're talking about michigan, they all made lots of money. and the workers who worked for those companies were middle class and their children went to college and became lawyers and doctors and accountants and some of them even went back to work in the factories. but now, seven days it took to crush the ability of workers to stand together financially. they'll never crush the spirit of the workers...
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>> obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> that, of course, gets four pinocchios from the washington post. political pali "politics nation" gave it a pants on fire. let's hope we can play the game inside the lines from now on. we can all have our different opinions, but we can't have different facts. the truth is the truth. is the truth. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball starts" right now . >> severely conservative. let's play "hardball." >> good evening, i'm chris matthews down in washington. did you get the impression during the presidential campaign that the press was trying too hard to be even handed? did you think the people delivering the news were pushing what we call ambulanbalance at x expense of the obvious facts? the democrats in this election were like democrats going back to jack kennedy. but the republicans were far to the right as anything we've ever seen from that party, ever. self deportation, treat women like they belong in binders, ignore the rights of gay people, crack down on abo
>> obama took gm and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> that, of course, gets four pinocchios from the washington post. political pali "politics nation" gave it a pants on fire. let's hope we can play the game inside the lines from now on. we can all have our different opinions, but we can't have different facts. the truth is the truth. is the truth. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball...
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and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. strangers and ignoring our friends. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. >> cenk: politico is a fact-checking organization and they've been doing something over the last couple of years "the lie of year." >> obama: took g.m. and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. >> cenk: oh, my god, they're moving all the jeep jobs to china. then the ceo put out a statement. i feel obliged to state our position. jeep production will not be used tofrom the united states to children. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. they knew it wasn't true, and even after this statement mitt romney kept saying over and over again, they're going to move all the jeep jobs to china. can you believe it? so that wound up being lie of the year for political fact. they asked readers to pick out the top lies of the year. the top five. here's the first one. >> what we now have is the biggest tax incr
and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china. strangers and ignoring our friends. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. >> cenk: politico is a fact-checking organization and they've been doing something over the last couple of years "the lie of year." >> obama: took g.m. and chrysler into bankruptcy and sold chrysler to italians who are going to build jeeps in china....
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that chrysler was going to begin making jeeps in china. >> for chinese. >> right. right. it made perfect sense. a lot of auto-companies do this. obviously, that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered thems enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think they were desperate to win ohio. maybe it was a net loss. >> i think it's one of those things like voter suppression. whiplash against it. thank you so much, michael. thank you, jonathan. same with you. when we return, let me finish with the ultimate triumph this year of, believe it or not. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. to the best vacation sp(all) the gulf! [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it.
that chrysler was going to begin making jeeps in china. >> for chinese. >> right. right. it made perfect sense. a lot of auto-companies do this. obviously, that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered thems enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think they were desperate to win ohio. maybe it was a net loss. >> i think it's one of those things like voter suppression. whiplash against...
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that would be president obama sold chrysler to italy which would then move u.s. jeep production to china. chrysler denied the claim. the media said it was untrue. the public was outraged. the romney campaign spread it anyway. we're back after the alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15 seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken with porto
that would be president obama sold chrysler to italy which would then move u.s. jeep production to china. chrysler denied the claim. the media said it was untrue. the public was outraged. the romney campaign spread it anyway. we're back after the alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other....
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the chrysler workers got their jobs back. chrysler rehired the workers that were fired. let's bring in the investigative reporter that broke the story two years ago. he's been following it through. my obvious question is these guys have got their jobs back. do you get back-pay? do you know whether they do or not? >> i do not know whether they do or not. i asked that question. in fact when i talked to the girl from chrysler when i first found out about this on friday that they got their jobs back, i talked to her. i asked her a bunch of questions. i was kind of shocked and flabbergasted even though you had called it, you said they were going to get their jobs back a couple of years ago. you were absolutely right about that, stuart. but anyway, when i talked to her, i hung up the phone and i stopped, thought about it, i said my gosh i've got to find out if they are getting that back-pay. i called her back and all of a sudden she kind of clammed up and said that it was a personnel matter and she couldn't say if they got back-pay. so i could not tell you if they got back-pay
the chrysler workers got their jobs back. chrysler rehired the workers that were fired. let's bring in the investigative reporter that broke the story two years ago. he's been following it through. my obvious question is these guys have got their jobs back. do you get back-pay? do you know whether they do or not? >> i do not know whether they do or not. i asked that question. in fact when i talked to the girl from chrysler when i first found out about this on friday that they got their...
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striking then that ford motor company ceo said at the time, and i quote, we believe that if gm and chrysler gone into freefall bankruptcy they would have taken the supply base down and taken the industry down, but maybe turn the u.s. recession into a depression, closed quote. that is a teaching moment about the power of the overall innovative skill set, the supply chain, and what that means for our capacity to compete when the company that would've been left standing thought they might have gone down as well. so, there's so much to say. i want to make these viewpoints, overall perspective, talk a little bit about manufacturing, about research and develop skills, and i'd be very happy to take your questions going forward. [applause] >> we have time for a few questions. i will call on people. if you can wait for christine to come around with a microphone. >> thank you. rob, invest in state we're in manufacturing invested in 20 states. my question goes to innovation funds which you brought it. at which stage are you focusing on? is it with respect to either extension or the startups? then on a
striking then that ford motor company ceo said at the time, and i quote, we believe that if gm and chrysler gone into freefall bankruptcy they would have taken the supply base down and taken the industry down, but maybe turn the u.s. recession into a depression, closed quote. that is a teaching moment about the power of the overall innovative skill set, the supply chain, and what that means for our capacity to compete when the company that would've been left standing thought they might have...
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, they also put out a radio ad that said the same thing, and they continued to repeat it even after chrysler and the fact checkers had said it was simply not true. jeep was actually expanding its production in the u.s. the reason it was thinking of building, that it's planning to build a plant in china is to meet the increased demand for jeeps in china, so it was just blatantly false and yet they persisted with it. >> you know what's interesting, too, remember when the chrysler ceo, sergio marchione had to put out a statement basically saying, liar, liar, pants on fire, this is not going to happen. that's never, or more nicely i'm obliged to unambiguously restate our position. jeep production will not be moved from the united states to china. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. there were strategists who were stunned that this ad, that this was being said, because they thought it was kind of signaled a desperate move. what was the runner-up, what was the next runner-up that could have been picked as the biggest lie? >> well we had ten finalists and i should note that we had a rea
, they also put out a radio ad that said the same thing, and they continued to repeat it even after chrysler and the fact checkers had said it was simply not true. jeep was actually expanding its production in the u.s. the reason it was thinking of building, that it's planning to build a plant in china is to meet the increased demand for jeeps in china, so it was just blatantly false and yet they persisted with it. >> you know what's interesting, too, remember when the chrysler ceo,...
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chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and the unions are powerful there. it is emblematic and we look back on history. this move to make michigan a right to work state will be historic for that reason alone . what needs to be so clear in the discussion, it is really about choice. it is not about tamping down people's rights. it is actually moving them up and saying you now have a choice. you can pay your dues to the union, or you can choose not to pay the dues. >> steve: what happened in michigan is a great thing. because any time the government insists that you have to pay to go in and get a paycheck, that is it a s
chrysler now twice . we see it in the southern states where the plants are. they were not the ones that went bankrupt in 2008 and 9. it really is a tough choice and i sympathize with the unions. but in the global economy where you compete on wages and other units of production . you can either have high wages with low employment or as obama said spread around the wealth. >> gretchen: michigan is the heart of the labor industry in this nation specifically whether so many cars are made and...
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what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional chamber of commerce. >> look forward to that. >> we're all going to be there. >> in vermont, you don't need, because of the icy conditions there, a ford raptor, do you? >> oh, you need a raptor. >> i have a hybrid escape. >> raptor's a lot like the escape. >> except it has horrific gas mileage. the raptor. >> oh, the raptor. >> four miles to the gallon. >> escape gets good mileage. >> 31 in the summertime. it's fantastic. >> impressive. >>> still ahead, political analyst richard wolffe. also the president of the university of pennsylvania and author amy guttmann explains why the pe
what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional...
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>> the irony is yesterday chrysler announced $120 million investment in michigan. 115 new jobs. michigan has helped lead the economic comeback for this country in part because of historic collective bargaining agreements between the detroit three and the united autoworkers. we have a labor management partnership that works. this, as you said was about politics. it was about gutting organized labor and the irony is i work for a labor management fund connected with a laborer's union and we invest almost $5 million a year in apprenticeship and training programs. we operate skilled workers to build complicated infrastructure projects like the governor wants to build in this state. so it will make michigan less competitive. it puts us in a race to the bottom with low-wage, low-skill states, that's bad for our state. >> eliot: tim, you were one of the leaders in the legislature. many of us looking at michigan and think is a state that voted for president obama. just re-elected debbie stabenow to the senate. you are as blue as a state can be. what explains this tension almost this schi
>> the irony is yesterday chrysler announced $120 million investment in michigan. 115 new jobs. michigan has helped lead the economic comeback for this country in part because of historic collective bargaining agreements between the detroit three and the united autoworkers. we have a labor management partnership that works. this, as you said was about politics. it was about gutting organized labor and the irony is i work for a labor management fund connected with a laborer's union and we...
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and because of that the june appealed the fact that chrysler terminated these employees. they are entitled to as union employees to receive collective bargaining and have an arbitration they have reinstated it. >> who ordered it? >> the arbitrator in the state of michigan that was in charge of that area. >> the arbitrator ordered these guys back correct because they said there was insufficient evidence. there was no charges. this is suffice the fact that a reporter we spoke to mr. well check from fox 2 the news area there, he actually saw it, witnessed it, broke the story, smelled the pot, the whole thing, the moral of the story is call the cops when you walk in on union workers with or any workers that are. >> otherwise you don't have case. >> i want to be perfectly clear and you are the person to do it for the whole audience watching tonight let me get this straight the union said is this the united auto workers union, i assume? >> yes. >> to the state arbiter or to the by appoint want, all right? there is no evidence that they were drinking and smoking pot on the job.
and because of that the june appealed the fact that chrysler terminated these employees. they are entitled to as union employees to receive collective bargaining and have an arbitration they have reinstated it. >> who ordered it? >> the arbitrator in the state of michigan that was in charge of that area. >> the arbitrator ordered these guys back correct because they said there was insufficient evidence. there was no charges. this is suffice the fact that a reporter we spoke to...
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and because of that the june appealed the fact that chrysler terminated these employees. they are entitled to as union employees to receive collective bargaining and have an arbitration they have reinstated it. >> who ordered it? >> the arbitrator in the state of michigan that was in charge of that area. >> the arbitrator ordered these guys back correct because they said there was insufficient evidence. there was no charges. this is suffice the fact that a reporter we spoke to mr. well check from fox 2 the news area there, he actually saw it, witnessed it, broke the story, smelled the pot, the whole thing, the moral of the story is call the cops when you walk in on union workers with or any workers that are. >> otherwise you don't have case. >> i want to be perfectly clear and you are the person to do it for the whole audience watching tonight let me get this straight the union said is this the united auto workers union, i assume? >> yes. >> to the state arbiter or to the by appoint want, all right? there is no evidence that they were drinking and smoking pot on the job.
and because of that the june appealed the fact that chrysler terminated these employees. they are entitled to as union employees to receive collective bargaining and have an arbitration they have reinstated it. >> who ordered it? >> the arbitrator in the state of michigan that was in charge of that area. >> the arbitrator ordered these guys back correct because they said there was insufficient evidence. there was no charges. this is suffice the fact that a reporter we spoke to...
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we sat down with ford, general motors, and chrysler, our membership made sacrifices so we could get more economic development, more product, investment. billions of dollars is going into michigan because of unions and collective bargaining helping not just union workers but workers, all workers throughout the state. and you know, chris, and i know, in right to work states, average income is down, average wages is down, not as much pension or retirement security is in union states, less spending on k through 12 education, less spending on infrastructure. why? because workers make less, less tax revenue coming in. right to work is bad for americans. >> why do people like the koch brothers oppose unionization, mr. hagerstrom? >> unions will continue to thrive and to go forward. this gives individuals the right to determine what happens to their hard-earned money. you do not have to give your hard-earned money to a private organization to keep your job. it's that simple. it's that simple. this is going to move michigan forward. it's going to move our state forward, allow us to compete for gr
we sat down with ford, general motors, and chrysler, our membership made sacrifices so we could get more economic development, more product, investment. billions of dollars is going into michigan because of unions and collective bargaining helping not just union workers but workers, all workers throughout the state. and you know, chris, and i know, in right to work states, average income is down, average wages is down, not as much pension or retirement security is in union states, less spending...
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chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the fact is that in the right-to-work states, unemployment is 6.9%. >> we have a graphic that shows right-to-work vs. non-right to work statements on employment, go ahead. >> and in the other stays the non-right-to-work it's 8.7. so you can choose to have fewer workers who enjoy higher inflated unnatural, if you like, wangs on uncompetitive wages. or competitive wages and more people employed. more people with the dignity of a job and less unemployment. more taxation and more activity. i think it's it the right choice bu
chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the...
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chrysler isn't even an american company anymore, it's owned by the italians. it has been a colossal disaster, and it's going to continue to be. the unions with their work rules and exceptions and restrictions on workers -- not so much the paycheck. most of the three big japanese makers in the south that are not dominated by unions do not have those work rules, but they pay about the same dollars per hour in many wages. so the wages can be paid, it's the crazy union work rules and defending people who drink on on the job, for example, that cause problems that are running american business out of the country. alisyn: all right. lars larson, leslie marshall, kudos for being able to debate over the cacophony coming out of lansing. >> hey, we didn't have any beeps. >> kick those union thugs out. alisyn: thank you so much. >>> meanwhile, a popular u.s. retailer now under fire for including a series of profanity-laced items in its annual christmas catalog. why they did it. >>> plus, a 6-year-old girl near death from leukemia making a miraculous recovery. up next we'l
chrysler isn't even an american company anymore, it's owned by the italians. it has been a colossal disaster, and it's going to continue to be. the unions with their work rules and exceptions and restrictions on workers -- not so much the paycheck. most of the three big japanese makers in the south that are not dominated by unions do not have those work rules, but they pay about the same dollars per hour in many wages. so the wages can be paid, it's the crazy union work rules and defending...
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they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money, that is fantastic, that is your constitutional right. they should not be forced to pay dues to the union. 20% of union households in michigan support the right to work law. probably because there's a awful lot of union workers don't go there again the value worth of their dues or supports priorities. they should have a choice, that is their right. lori: we have seen unions lose membership, lot less clout than in generations past. how do you characterize the influence of unions right now? >> it is a competitive marketplace. up through the late 70s the detroit automakers headlock on th
they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money,...
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and remember the chrysler workers smoking and drinking during the lunch break? two suspended and they got their jobs back. that was an arbitrator's ruling. under the union contract they were on their own time. chrysler says it disagrees with the decision, can't change it, that's the example of the union's power. and tell us what you think about the workers getting their jobs back. and we'll read some on the air. more fantasy island in california, coming up after the break, why california's green energy policies just don't work and we're also going to bring you the opening bell and we've got more companies issuing special dividends before the end of the year. including the one that runs victoria's secrets. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that hes block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. relieving the pain quickly. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. an
and remember the chrysler workers smoking and drinking during the lunch break? two suspended and they got their jobs back. that was an arbitrator's ruling. under the union contract they were on their own time. chrysler says it disagrees with the decision, can't change it, that's the example of the union's power. and tell us what you think about the workers getting their jobs back. and we'll read some on the air. more fantasy island in california, coming up after the break, why california's...
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without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think so. it's your constituents that are paying for the wasteful money. if you're coming here telling your constituents, you really don't -- >> no, look, i'm saying, i'm in favor of accountability. >> the congressman from new jersey needs to speak up for the state. >> i'm in favor of accountability. let me finish. after accountability is built in, will you vote yes or no? >> i will be supportive of slaks once we have the accountability in place. >> good. >> work with me on the accountability, fantastic. >> absolutely. i'll make sure the people in new jersey and new york are not left high and driv
without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think...
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chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with them. so they must have this sort of ironclad language. you're a lawyer what, do you think? >> well, i think chrysler is now on the receiving end of what so many others feel in states where unions are really powerful. and so they're now the ones who have to deal with it. as a legal matter, i don't think chrysler is going to be able to challenge this. i think the ruling is going to stand and maybe chrysler will rue the day they were so lax and tolerant of union power. >> steve: speaking of power. powerball, the second guy who won t
chrysler said that. not the union. >> sorry, sorry. chrysler said that. so like next time something falls off your chrysler, like your steering wheel cover kind of slips off, now we know why, because you're like sailing -- 30,000 feet up high. knobs always fall off. let's get another nickel bag before i go back to work. ridiculous! >> gretchen: it speaks to the power of the union. it really does. and whatever they had in the language of their contract, the arbitrator sided with...
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he had been scheduled to help announce daimler chrysler's factory expansion outside detroit. president obama took the opportunity to tell the workers and michigan republican leaders where he stands on union busting. >> we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages or working conditions. we shouldn't be doing that. you know -- [ cheering and applause ] you know, these so-called right-to-work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> this is what the president is talking about. a union membership goes down. as it goes down, all middle class income shrinks. without collective bargaining, workers lose the power to demand better wages. this is a direct attack on the middle class. >> you only have to look to michigan, where workers were instrume
he had been scheduled to help announce daimler chrysler's factory expansion outside detroit. president obama took the opportunity to tell the workers and michigan republican leaders where he stands on union busting. >> we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages or working...
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>> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because they don't put in the union political fund. >> dana: 24 states have lower unemployment rate and other states are not right to work, while shouldn't michigan, at least they have a democratic process. it's passed. the governor has been thoughtful about it. people, majority of people support it. why not let them try something that would alter history? >> kimberly: why not? >> bob: why not bad handguns in countries that don't have murder. here we ban them and it -- >> greg: the funny thing is we talk about greece, but before there was greece, there was detroit. detroit is greece. if it was only the acropolis. dead city. people left because they couldn't make a living, the unions suffocate pod tenial. >> bob: true about toledo and cleveland and cincinnati? the northern cities that hav
>> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because they don't put in the union political fund. >> dana: 24 states have lower unemployment rate and other states are not right to work, while shouldn't michigan, at least they have a democratic process. it's passed. the...
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>> well, this is a situation where chrysler fired the workers. they were embarrassed by the video of course. it went national. it went international. they fired the 13 guys pretty quickly, because they wanted to send a message that, you know, this is not the image that chrysler wants. so they fired these guys quickly. then it goes through the arbitration process. took two years. chrysler hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. the uaw hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. they battle it out in court. the arbitrator is like the judge, and arbitrator said these guys deserve their jobs back. now in the statement that chrysler said -- gave me, they said this happened during their off-duty time. so technically, i guess, they were not paid. even the uaw has rules where it says they don't tolerate alcohol and drugs in the workplace, but these guys were in their off-duty time them. spent their lunch getting high, having a good time, then going back to work. so i don't know. >> what was it like when you first happened upon the scene? take me back to that moment
>> well, this is a situation where chrysler fired the workers. they were embarrassed by the video of course. it went national. it went international. they fired the 13 guys pretty quickly, because they wanted to send a message that, you know, this is not the image that chrysler wants. so they fired these guys quickly. then it goes through the arbitration process. took two years. chrysler hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. the uaw hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. they battle it out in...
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ceo alan mulally said at the time, "we believe that if gm and chrysler would have gone into free-fall bankruptcy, they would have taken the supply base down and the industry down and turn the u.s. recession into a depression." that is the teaching moment about the power of the overall innovative skill said, the supply chain, and what that means for our capacity to compete when the company that would have been left standing thought they might have gone down as well. there is so much to say. i wanted to make these viewpoints, overall perspective, talk about manufacturing and research and skills, and i'm very happy to take your questions going forward. [applause] >> i think we have time for a few questions. i will call on people. if you could wait until he comes around with the microphone. >> thank you. aig investments. my question goes to innovation funds, which you brought out. at what stage are you focusing on with respect to either expansion or start-ups? on an execution basis, what is the regional plan as far as national strategy? >> look, i think for those of us in a government job
ceo alan mulally said at the time, "we believe that if gm and chrysler would have gone into free-fall bankruptcy, they would have taken the supply base down and the industry down and turn the u.s. recession into a depression." that is the teaching moment about the power of the overall innovative skill said, the supply chain, and what that means for our capacity to compete when the company that would have been left standing thought they might have gone down as well. there is so much to...
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. >>> this made i grateful riding in a chrysler, right? remeer workers that were caught boozing and looked like they were high a couple years ago. and they were fired. now they're back on the job. how is that even possible? piles of money and tons of questions coming u ♪ [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at res.. while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis sympto. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hourelief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus,n clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical functn so moving is easier. celebrex cabe taken with or without food. and it not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benets with theisks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen, and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. they all
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chrysler does not agree but it wants to put this situation behind them as so many do. chrysler said we respect the agements procedure process in the collective bargaining agreement andhe relationship with united autoworkers. those that will notgo the of state exchange, where republicans says he is convinced the governmt makes up the ilementation ast goes along in oviding almost no information on how works. the state have to reach a decision by friday. growing democratic oppositionet to take effect senators and senators elecsend a letter to harry reid urging a delay that the medical device industry has given little guidance. obama and speaker boehner meeting face-to-face over the fiscal cliff. they're not sayinn what they talked about as the "a team" joins us next. lou: the joining now e "a team" special assistant to the george bush ron christie, d pulitzer prize winning journalist never an assistant to george w. bush love and president mors says the rescind his powers to rested a civilian industry? >> good news tonight. he knowledg he had to make a concession that does
chrysler does not agree but it wants to put this situation behind them as so many do. chrysler said we respect the agements procedure process in the collective bargaining agreement andhe relationship with united autoworkers. those that will notgo the of state exchange, where republicans says he is convinced the governmt makes up the ilementation ast goes along in oviding almost no information on how works. the state have to reach a decision by friday. growing democratic oppositionet to take...
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and recently we saw one thing you really should shock some people is in 2010 there were 13 sort of chrysler workers who were fired for using alcohol and marijuana on the job making cars. two years later all 13 of them got their jobs back basically because of union backed arbitration ad let them go ba to work. union rules to not make a very efficient and what everyrybody s looking to d is basically to ban the automatic deductions from payrolls gointo union fees for those who don't join union workers. they're trying to be very pro-worker. tracy: let's face it. i don't want to be forced at work, don't want to feel as a woer so is good for metoo. it feels almost odd entire south is still union where you get your northeast states all rights to work. why is there such a division >> i really can't tell you, but it's postmarked d the mentality the workershould be freed to make their own decisions. while republicans can push the bill through. obviously the unions and the uaw are crying uncle, but the time has come. tracy: union membership is falling precipitously. now you have political donations be
and recently we saw one thing you really should shock some people is in 2010 there were 13 sort of chrysler workers who were fired for using alcohol and marijuana on the job making cars. two years later all 13 of them got their jobs back basically because of union backed arbitration ad let them go ba to work. union rules to not make a very efficient and what everyrybody s looking to d is basically to ban the automatic deductions from payrolls gointo union fees for those who don't join union...
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gm, chrysler were all on the brink of failure. and if they failed, the suppliers and distributors that get their business from those companies, they would have died off, too. even ford could have gone down -- production halted. factories shuttered. once proud companies chopped up and sold off for scraps. and all of you -- the men and women who built these companies with your own hands -- would have been hung out to dry. and everybody in this community that depends on you -- restaurant owners, storekeepers, bartenders -- their livelihoods would have been at stake, too. so i wasn't about to let that happen. i placed my bet on american workers. we bet on american ingenuity. i'd make that same bet any day of the week. [applause] three and a half years later, that bet is paying off. this industry has added over a quarter of a million new jobs. assembly lines are humming again. the american auto industry is back. and companies like daimler know you're still a smart bet. they could have made their investment somewhere else, but they didn
gm, chrysler were all on the brink of failure. and if they failed, the suppliers and distributors that get their business from those companies, they would have died off, too. even ford could have gone down -- production halted. factories shuttered. once proud companies chopped up and sold off for scraps. and all of you -- the men and women who built these companies with your own hands -- would have been hung out to dry. and everybody in this community that depends on you -- restaurant owners,...
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melissa: i think it's a bad ad for chrysler because people see this and they don't want to buy chryslers because saying these are guys putting my car together. i'm scared the tire will fall off going down the street. i wish we had more time. you're a great guest. appreciate having you on. >> my pleasure. melissa: from a mc slump to mcsave. anatomy of a sales comeback. cheddar, bacon, onions coming to the rescue. i will eat both cheeseburgers doing the break. you can never have too much money or too much lipitor, i don't know. hmmm. >> all right, time at a a little bit of fun. we're joined with our very own ashley webster. first up in a study came out with a positive effects of according to the stuuy, coupon is more relaxing than the spa, more enjoyable than kissing. i don't know who they are kissing. what do you think? >> this study was put together for coupons.com. no big surprise. coupons here everything that could ail you. melissa: those who receive ccupons for 11% happier. what is 11% happier feel like? >> i would say maybe a seven versus what they were feeling before, but what they
melissa: i think it's a bad ad for chrysler because people see this and they don't want to buy chryslers because saying these are guys putting my car together. i'm scared the tire will fall off going down the street. i wish we had more time. you're a great guest. appreciate having you on. >> my pleasure. melissa: from a mc slump to mcsave. anatomy of a sales comeback. cheddar, bacon, onions coming to the rescue. i will eat both cheeseburgers doing the break. you can never have too much...
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gm, chrysler were all on the brink of failure and if they failed, the suppliers and distributors getting the business from those countries, they would have died off, too. even ford could have gone down. production halted. factories shuttered. once proud companies shopped up, sold off for scraps. and all of you, the men and women who built these companies with your own hands, would have been hung out to dry. and everybody in this community that depends on you, restaurant owners, storekeepers, bartenders. they -- their livelihoods would have been at stake, too. so i wasn't about to let that happen. i placed my bet on american workers. we bet on american ingenuity. i'd make that same bet any day of the week. three and a half years later that bet is paying off. this industry's added over 250,000 new jobs. american auto industry is back. and companies like diamler know you're still a smart bet. they could have made their investments somewhere else but they didn't. and if you ask them whether it was a tough call, they tell you it wasn't even close. so the word's going out all around the world.
gm, chrysler were all on the brink of failure and if they failed, the suppliers and distributors getting the business from those countries, they would have died off, too. even ford could have gone down. production halted. factories shuttered. once proud companies shopped up, sold off for scraps. and all of you, the men and women who built these companies with your own hands, would have been hung out to dry. and everybody in this community that depends on you, restaurant owners, storekeepers,...